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Racthoh · Nov 11, 2007, 09:07 AM // 09:07

Ritualist. Weapon of Remedy and Offering of Spirit are the only decent elites they have.

Paragons I would say have the least number of bad elites.

drago34 · Nov 11, 2007, 09:22 AM // 09:22

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Originally Posted by Mist Walker Skarloc

QFLoT. That'd be quoted for lack of truth.

Eh, to each his own.

Redfeather1975 · Nov 11, 2007, 09:38 AM // 09:38

Tease would be pretty sweet if it wasn't a hex.
If the ONLY way to remove it was to hit the mesmer.
It would combo well with skills like clumsiness.

**cosyfiep** · Nov 11, 2007, 09:55 AM // 09:55

looking thru my characters I notice that my mesmers and my rits dont seem to use the elites....all the others do, so I would tend to agree with the crowd and say mesmer and rit elties are bottom of the barrel.

Viruzzz · Nov 11, 2007, 10:01 AM // 10:01

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Originally Posted by netniwk

LOl,what where they thinking when they made this one,how hard is it to hit someone in touch range

(unles you are blind ofcourse)

the worst thing about that is that its a hex. so hitting is not the only way to remove it. but if it was you could put it on a W/Me, it wouldn't look odd for a warrior to use skills at touch range, and if used on the right targets it could hurt a lot.

would it stack with diversion? that would mean you could take out any skill on a foe's bar for a minute and a half.

Guns Up! · Nov 11, 2007, 10:06 AM // 10:06

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Originally Posted by wetsparks

First off, you should indeed answer your own topic, unless you are looking for a class to stay away from. Personally though, I would have to say Ritualists. It pains me to say that because I like the class.

Pains me even more because my main character is a rit and I have no desire to get any of their elites.

Sleeper Service · Nov 11, 2007, 10:23 AM // 10:23

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Originally Posted by Jebus

I mean these:
[skill]Extend Conditions[/skill]
[skill]Lyssa's Aura[/skill]
[skill]Recurring Insecurity[/skill]
[skill]Psychic Instability[/skill]
[skill]Simple Thievery[/skill]
[skill]Stolen Speed[/skill]
[skill]Tease[/skill]

Some of these could be handy, I guess. They just need too many other skills in the same build to work effectively, imo.

no doubt they could use a (big big)buff in order to be "effective" but they sure as hell are FUN to play with.

again the problem of pve VS pvp balance regarding those skills and others in the same vein, if they became buffed to deal with HM type maps they would simply be far far to powerful in pvp. maybe (im not sure, they lack oomph in pve but they certainly have their use in casual pvp).

and Rts have the works draw elite wise imo. but again the same issue arises if Anet were to buff the skill in pvp+pve.

~ Dan ~ · Nov 11, 2007, 10:31 AM // 10:31

I'd say paragon and dervish. They have their good elites, and bad ones, like any other class. But the fact is they don't have as many elites as the others, almost half of core professions (i think?)

Washi · Nov 11, 2007, 11:16 AM // 11:16

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

I'd say paragon and dervish.

Ummmm dervish has the most broken elite ever so it doesnt matter if he's got any other.

Vickie · Nov 11, 2007, 11:21 AM // 11:21

I'll vote for Ritualist, too. Let's see, which elite to use for this map? Hmm... never mind. *runs around without elite skill*

|pyro| · Nov 11, 2007, 12:09 PM // 12:09

I really dont find a lot of mesmer elites to be overall good, there are a handful of them that all build revolve around of them. One is Assassin's Promise.

Stormlord Alex · Nov 11, 2007, 01:03 PM // 13:03

The Ritualist has a grand total of... 2 elites I'd really bother running.
[skill]offering of spirit[/skill][skill]weapon of remedy[/skill]

... ahh, well... we can always use Empathic Removal...

~ Dan ~ · Nov 11, 2007, 01:05 PM // 13:05

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Originally Posted by Washi

Ummmm dervish has the most broken elite ever so it doesnt matter if he's got any other.

So? What does it matter if one elite is imba but alot of others suck? This thread states the overall worst elites..

Cobalt · Nov 11, 2007, 01:27 PM // 13:27

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

The Ritualist has a grand total of... 2 elites I'd really bother running.
[skill]offering of spirit[/skill][skill]weapon of remedy[/skill]

... ahh, well... we can always use Empathic Removal...

I agree Rits got a raw deal in the Elite area I more often than not never run my Rit with one or use a secondary class Elite.

Wanderlust was borderline ok until the recent spirit nerf, in fact it by all rights should be removed from Elite status now and Ritual Lord was pretty nice until it was nerf batted useless.

The bright side is since most Rits do not use Rit Elites they are no longer getting nerft. The downside it now they are beating the only good normal skills they have with the bat instead.

undeadgun · Nov 11, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40

i think rit too, not only because lack of useful elites, also this class just seem to be not as great as others. for dmg, rit's channaling not as much as eles, for healing, no where near as much as monk does. for protection, the spirits just doesnt seem to do much since the recharge and the casting time. the only few uses that i ve seen for rit are: GvG flager, old rit spike(got nerfed), some specific high-ended area(i.e mallyx). besides those, i cant think there is a reason i need a rit in my group.

Diddy bow · Nov 11, 2007, 02:03 PM // 14:03

The paragons only usless elite is incoming imo.
[skill][/skill]
Sins have a few but id say monk...
[skill]Aura of Faith[/skill] Boon much?
[skill]Peace and Harmony[/skill]1 regen!
[skill]Unyielding Aura[/skill]steal ure ecto
[skill]Amity[/skill]...
[skill]Mark of Protection[/skill]use spirit bond, even Healing hands beats it.
[skill]Withdraw Hexes[/skill]Quite usless as its adjacent.
[skill]Ray of Judgment[/skill]Holy spear is almost as good minus the elite slot and 15 energy
[skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill]i consider this the worst in the game =D
[skill]Defender's Zeal[/skill]id rather stop them attacking tbh..

And there are others but this seems to be the worst of it.

Pyro maniac · Nov 11, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07

assassins:
[skill]Shattering Assault[/skill],[skill]Shadow Prison[/skill] and [skill]Moebius Strike[/skill]
Those are the only usefull elites (tho those are just great)

there is a reason sins still use Sprison: there isn't any good elite attack that could fit the bar

CHunterX · Nov 11, 2007, 02:42 PM // 14:42

Paragon. The most popular elite doesn't even work to its fullest, listed extent. That says a lot.

Vulkanyaz · Nov 11, 2007, 03:13 PM // 15:13

Ritualist or Paragon.

Whoever says Assassins have crap elites are the ones running wiki builds 24/7!

CHunterX · Nov 11, 2007, 03:16 PM // 15:16

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Originally Posted by Pyro maniac

there is a reason sins still use Sprison: there isn't any good elite attack that could fit the bar

Actually they use it for bar compression.